[donatj]

> the complexity wears me out

This! The complexity of so many modern games turns me off from them. Have to learn a bunch of complicated systems? Sounds way too much like my day job.

[AlchemistCamp]

And programming as a genre has become popular...

Ever seen Lightbot, TIS-100 or Shenzhen I/O?

[Shivetya]

quite a few strategy games, looking at you PDX, are so damn close just being excel/access with pretty graphics they end up as a slog instead of fun.

however we have to acknowledge there many types of players, from those who min max to those who just want to point and click