[wholepointofcc]

> Im surprised there are still ppl doing e2es.

You're surprised that there are people actually testing that things work after integration, interacting with the system as a user would?

I'm surprised there are still people who don't.

[pojzon]

No, I'm surprised people still use e2e tests as they are not the best way to test what you described..

There are better ways, like the ones I've described. We are not longer in 90s..

ps. e2e tests are not the same as manual testing, so they do not even fully cover your case. They are expensive and take long time to run, while simple pact build step provides pretty much the same value and is pretty much instant while making it easier for all developer teams to track api changes..

[wholepointofcc]

You seem to be very focused on the API... but that's only half the product :-)