[danceparty]

Subjective and frankly insane to say. Over 8 million people live in NYC (over 2x the population of the next most populous city in the USA, Los Angeles). NYC is commonly known in western culture as a world capital of culture, finance, and world politics (recall the UN). The population of NYC has grown by over 223,615 since the previous census. I agree with you that other cities around the world (a very large area!) may appeal to your personal sensibilities, but saying you 'feel bad for New Yorkers' is trolling. I Feel Bad for any backwoods country-dweller that thinks they have it better than the hundreds of thousands of people that made the choice to move to one of the (objectively) greatest cities in the world to improve their life. See how that feels? You just attempted to apply that to millions of people. Every densely populated has is faults (Barcelona particularly! Many, as in a substantial voting bloc, residents would prefer you to have never come as a tourist at all.) Pigeonholing the residents of the largest city in the USA to be worthy of your sympathy based on their choice to live there is not constructive, nor rational.

[jhatemyjob]

> (objectively)

Ok.

[kortilla]

> NYC is commonly known in western culture as a world capital of culture, finance, and world politics

Commonly known in NYC maybe. That view is antiquated in the rest of the US.

> USA to be worthy of your sympathy based on their choice to live there is not constructive, nor rational.

Wow, so sensitive. The pity is not because of their choice. It’s for how the urban planning of NYC has been consistently squandered for 50+ years. You can simultaneously like a city and have pity for its fixable flaws (e.g. homelessness in San Francisco).

[adamsea]

> Commonly known in NYC maybe. That view is antiquated in the rest of the US.

Respectfully, I doubt it. People may not _like_ NYC, but ...

- Wall Street - Carnegie Hall -MOMA, etc - As the other poster mentioned, the U.N. - Still tons of movies and shows use NYC as the setting for their story - Broadway, and theatre in the US - A huge part of the publishing industry is in NYC - Along with LA, Nashville, and Atlanta, NYC is one of the hearts of the US music industry.

And I’m sure there’s plenty I missed that we all could add to the list given a little time.

Those all seem like pretty obvious and objective markers identifying NYC as a US, if not world cultural, financial, and political hub.

[hacknat]

This is deflecting. I was not arguing at all that NYC isn’t a global power and important city. I’ve been in more live able ones though.