[BoorishBears]

Ha, I've used Clojure, see my thoughts above in the other thread.

By the way, I love Java, love Kotlin even more. Don't bring the JVM and other languages down to Clojure's level just because Clojure is clutching onto the JVM's coattails.

[iLemming]

I couldn't answer in the other thread because your reply got downvoted (and rightfully so) and went "dead." I get it. You personally hate Clojure. The reasons though objectively, are your own personal and nothing to do with the design of the language.

You felt that Clojure doesn't bring any value. Well, there are thousands of people who think differently, not just me. I have grown to distrust fanboys, and even more so, haters. If you hate a programming language that consistently being ranked among others at the top of "the most loved" category, there's something wrong with your assumptions about that language.

Please don't waste your energy trying to write another lengthy comment. Your argumentation is flawed, but I won't spend my time trying to prove you wrong because you wouldn't see the truth even if it hit you right between your eyes.

Clojure notoriously known for attracting older, experienced, "grumpy" developers. Programmers with years of experience and seasoned in many other languages, because it simplifies many things. "Out of the Tar Pit" - as the phrase and as the widely known paper, accurately characterizes principles that Clojure has built on. And If your only take on the language (I quote your own words), is: "Clojure is a garbage language," then I guess I misjudged your programming experience level. Maybe you haven't struggled enough with other PLs to the point that it gets so tiresome you start thinking about retirement.

[BoorishBears]

Please, how long of a response is there to a comment that boils down to:

"I have no concrete rebuttal so I'm going to refute your objective points about it's shortcomings with nonsense about retirement age programmers and whining you weren't nice while systematically listing all the things wrong with it and all the alternatives beat it at it's own game"

Java and Kotlin and Erlang (again, literally my "pet favorite language" since, predictably you're going "lalalalala you just dont get simple languages lalalalal") are all languages known to be used by programmers to make useful stuff, at a success rate much much higher than Clojure.