[aaomidi]

I honestly think there's nothing more disgusting than imprisoning someone.

I've actually made this argument in my social sciences class that the reason prison sentences are so long is that people generally thought/think the afterlife exists. It's easy to take away an individuals right to life when you think there's going to be another one in another life.

I would personally much rather have the death penalty than anything above 5 years in prison. I don't understand how we're collectively okay with just caging a human being... It's so terrifying and disgusting.

The act of imprisonment for over 5 years itself is a cruel and unusual punishment :(

[greggyb]

I'm not trying to pull a "gotcha!" or oversimplify your position or anything else devious. I am honestly curious about your answer to this question, given your position above:

What do you think about cases where the accused is found not guilty after some long period of time (longer than your five years, or any other threshold we might negotiate)? There are certainly cases where accused have been released after such time spans. There are also cases of accused being pardoned or having their sentences commuted after this period of time. These people would be denied that chance if they were killed instead.

[aaomidi]

Oh I'm not for killing anyone. Heck I have a problem with a LOT of our system. I'm just saying if I knew I was guilty I would like to have the option to die.

I'm very against state enforced killing.

[chriselles]

Do you believe that imprisonment is more disgusting that premeditated murder, rape, felony assault?

If so, can you please elaborate?

What alternatives do you suggest as sufficient deterrence to and effective punishment for the crimes of murder, rape, and felony assault?

[aaomidi]

I think in the short term we're kinda fucked. But in the long term I would like if we tried to make these crimes not happen. Find out why they're happening.

Can we help these criminals before they become criminals essentially?

And I wasn't saying we should get rid of prison, rather allow the person to choose death if they wish.

I'd also like to see if we can actually slowly introduce them back to society, slowly give more freedoms back or help them take jobs that gives their life meaning.

It's a hard problem and we definitely don't have the correct solution right now.

[javagram]

The person already suggested an alternative: execution.

That’s what human societies did for those crimes for thousands of years after all. The replacement of execution with prison is relatively modern, pre-industrial societies couldn’t afford to run prisons and punished using capital punishment, slavery, or exile instead.

(Of course we did switch for a reason, prison was thought to be more humane than the above)

[jaffau]

Beware the downvoting theists...

[dang]

Could you please not post flamebait to HN or take threads further into flamewar? We're hoping to avoid that here.

(Also, if you read them to the end, you'll find that the site guidelines you not to go on about downvotes in comments. Downvotes can be annoying but the posts about them are boring and do no good.)

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html