[cc439]

The joke about Juggalo facepaint is both true and funny but I think there is some actual merit to that idea. Camo clothing (and I don't mean the kind you see everyone wearing at rural WalMartss) goes in and out of fashion every couple years. Military-style jackets, boots, and caps (think of a stereotypical anarchist style) are also perennially in style with certain crowds. I don't think it's too far fetched to imagine a future where camo facepaint becomes fashionable enough to be widespread, there's also a lot of artistic potential available in non-traditional patterns and colors.

I can't really see a way for AI cameras to get around properly applied facepaint, especially varieties that are IR absorbent or reflective. I hold the human brain in very high regard when it comes to pattern/symbol/shape recognition and if facepainting techniques are good enough to trick human visual processing, it's going to be good enough to fool any existing AI. For an example of what I mean by proper technique, refer to this video: https://youtu.be/YpzUr3twW4Q

The trick is in getting enough people to adopt such a strategy that you can't be identified through simple exclusion. I think the idea of camo/other facepaint isn't so foreign and unappealing as to never come into common fashion.

[RogerL]

> I can't really see a way for AI cameras to get around properly applied facepaint,

In video people move, and 3D information can be recovered unless their faces are painted with something like Black 2.0. At which point why not just wear a mask?

[pazimzadeh]

Can a person's gait be used as identifying information?

[Jamwinner]

Yes, and the 'rock in the shoe' model has been trained against as well. Good luck.

[godelski]

> I don't think it's too far fetched to imagine a future where camo facepaint becomes fashionable enough to be widespread

A lot of those masks people in China wear they refer to as privacy masks (though this seems more an auxiliary usage -- especially in HK -- where the primary use is for filtering air). So I'd say there is evidence of such styles already becoming fashionable.

[emodendroket]

In Japan the stereotypical get-up a bank robber would wear isn't a ski mask but a medical mask with sunglasses and baseball cap.

[WalterBright]

> I can't really see a way for AI cameras to get around properly applied facepaint

Make it illegal to use facepaint.

[godelski]

> Make it illegal to use facepaint.

How do you distinguish this from makeup?

[haihaibye]

You're not thinking totalitarian enough: send cops to intercept unrecognizables, wipe their face till the face recognition and mandatory ID match.