[NickM]

Yeah it always seemed like it a shaky argument to me too. Even if people were unable to accurately perceive the timing of their own decisions, that doesn't seem to preclude the idea that people are still consciously making those decisions themselves....

[excursionist]

But humans don't exist in a vacuum, your decision process was programmed into your brain by nature & nurture, and you had no control over either - the decision process for any control you think you might have had was previously programmed into you brain without your choice.

[whatshisface]

>your decision process was programmed into your brain by nature & nurture,

But that's asserting the absence of free will, which you can't do in an argument meant to prove the absence of free will. Your interpretation of a free will experiment can't involve assuming a-priori that there is no free will.

[fattire]

Any discussion about free will should probably start with an agreed-upon definition of what "free will" is and what might be needed to confirm that it does or doesn't exist.

I think that's pretty much the issue right there.

h/t Wittgenstein

[excursionist]

The only assumption I'm making is that you have no choice where and when you are born. Do you disagree with that?