[k_]

I had that too. Also they were negotiating down every last estimate while we were doing "planning poker" which was only a façade and was really us committing to unrealistic man-hours estimates unwillingly.

[meheleventyone]

Or you get someone very senior in the company who rocks up in your planning meeting demanding to know the “real estimate”.

[Aeolun]

The real estimate is ‘as long as it takes’.