[drjesusphd]

If that's the case then there's no room whatsoever for capitalism to be anything other than an amoral system we should be ashamed of.

Vote with your dollar. You're allowed to make your own moral choices and refuse to contribute to evil.

[manigandham]

Capitalism is nothing but an economic system where you own the means to production. There is no inherent morality.

Nobody has an issue with you making choices and voting with your dollars. The issue is forcing those choices on everyone else (as in a business, especially as a non-owner) through your own interpretation of morality.

[drjesusphd]

> There is no inherent morality.

Not inherent; we have to make it so.

Capitalism dominates, what, 80% of our waking lives? The idea that morality should only be relegated to the other 20% is madness.

[manigandham]

Dominates? I don’t even know what means. It’s an economic system. What is the other 20% exactly?

[chipotle_coyote]

I'm not an economist, but I'm pretty sure the system where workers own the means of production isn't capitalism.

[manigandham]

It refers to "you" vs the state. You create a factory or a business or a new patent and you're responsible. You gain the profits or suffer the losses and nobody else can take it from you.

Workers are obviously not business owners, but they do own their own labor and are free to take whatever job they want, not be assigned to it from some central authority.