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by Qwertystop 2420 days ago
Utility bills are forgeable paper, yes. So is any other proof short of the strong cryptographic kind, which is going to be a lot more trouble to get set up infrastructurally. Also, forging them, or theft of mail, is a notable threshold beyond "just say you live there". Generally, in my experience, proof-of-address is coupled with some other requirement to prove your identity, so a genuine-but-stolen utility bill would need to be coupled with either a forged ID or a remarkable resemblance to the actual owner.

It's not perfect, but I would say that in most cases it's better than nothing. It's a bit lacking for of subletters, but when I've needed proof-of-address, showing the signed lease has also been acceptable.

(I actually am in a month-to-month with no lease and with a roommate's name on the utility bill, so the last time I needed proof of address I needed something else. Can't now remember what it was.)

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> So is any other proof short of the strong cryptographic kind, which is going to be a lot more trouble to get set up infrastructurally.

More trouble definitely, but not crazy hard. Some creditcard companies do it in those chip cards (others just put a readable ID on the chip, which is why you still see zoe gods printing chip cards). I know the government is generally less efficient than corporations, but they've got a massive budget. They should be able to figure out how to make an ID with a cryptographic signature that verifies itself and brings up a pre-registered photo on the computer of the person verifying you that's pulled from a government database. I don't really even want the government to have power, and I believe a national ID program like the one I'm proposing would do that in ways, so I'm fine with them failing to do this... I just don't understand why they haven't yet.

It could be as simple as scanning the barcode on a drivers license, the data goes to government system, and they compare what they see. Minus the last step, this already happens at lots of places that sell beer.

If minimizing privacy invasion, they could type info they're verifying in to get a yes/no instead of seeing whole thing. There's strategies for reducing abuse of such a service, too.