[eeZah7Ux]

It takes a lot of faith to overlook the many impending environmental disasters.

Many also cling to the false dichotomy between capitalism and "soviet russia / north korea / venezuela"

[WalterBright]

> It takes a lot of faith to overlook the many impending environmental disasters.

Capitalism is the only hope of fending off environmental disaster, because it is the only system capable of producing the surplus needed to deal with it. When people are starving, they lose all interest in anything but their next meal, regardless of how they get it.

For example, the US was the first to clean up its waterways, and this is because the surplus generated by capitalism made it fairly easy.

[dieterrams2]

You’re crediting capitalism with solving the very problems it created.

[megaman821]

What economic system produces no waste or pollution?

[WalterBright]

All human societies produce pollution, going back to the very beginning. In fact, archaeologists love to study ancient trash heaps.

[eeZah7Ux]

The amount of pollution per person varies wildly. Some societies were perfectly sustainable.

Among the most capitalistic and consumerist societies (e.g. US) the pollution is staggering.

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspicuous_consumption