[deogeo]

How nice. First subvert democracy through lobbying so they can offshore production, so the only 'choice' consumers have is go along with it, or live in the stone age. Then when consumers don't all retreat to caves and huts in the woods, claim this means they agree with and 'voted' for this course.

Buying is not voting, and deceiving people into believing this has been one of capitalism's greatest successes.

[dominotw]

> so the only 'choice' consumers have

its not the only choice in USA atleast. ethically made products cost more.

[benibela]

But the opposite direction does not hold. More expensive products are not necessary more ethically. Often the cheap and expensive products are made by the same workers and just sold under different brands.

So the customers cannot know which products are ethically or not.

They would need to vet the entire supply chain of every product. That is a full time job just to check one product

[dominotw]

> need vet the entire supply chain of every product.

Nah. You outsource that job to the store carrying the product. People shop at REI and whole foods for this precise reason.

[AndrewKemendo]

Unfortunately history would indicate that actual slave labor, or something close to it, (high volume, low unit cost) is required to rapidly scale new technologies to the point that they are ubiquitous. This is invariant on the amount of subversion of democracy there is or not.

The choices are 1. Slow down 2. Use bad labor practices 3. Completely automate production. Nobody seems to want to do #1 and we're not advanced enough for #3

[Roboprog]

I guess Franco isn’t dead, after all.