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by infinitone 2434 days ago
> Regardless why isn’t there a growing movement to call the perpetrators of this war criminals?

You're kidding right?

Before the US invasion, the largest protests in the world happened all over the world against it and it didn't do anything.

> Social movement researchers have described the 15 February protest as "the largest protest event in human history"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_February_2003_anti-war_prot...

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Don't forget that the vast majority of US citizens supported the invasion [1] while the rest of the world protested.

[1] https://www.pewresearch.org/2008/03/19/public-attitudes-towa...

Yeah, I recall meeting a US guy in Nepal high on Annapurna circuit trek (meaning the person was not as close-minded as many that didn't travel much, he did intensively over whole world before) around 2008, he was praising US invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan stating something about how local population would make great christians. He was a Texan and big supporter of GW Bush. That left me speechless for a while.

Sample of 1, but it clearly showed me that with some people, you just can't get the message across. Doesn't matter how smart they are, what they experienced, it just doesn't work. I tried (not too hard though) and failed.

Thankfully the war in Iraq was the last time our intelligence agencies mislead the public.
It's fascinating to reread just how bad these stories were:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niger_uranium_forgeries

> In March 2003 [..] it reportedly took International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) officials only a matter of hours to determine that these documents were fake. IAEA experts discovered indications of a crude forgery, such as the use of incorrect names of Nigerien officials.

The CIA and foreign intelligence services did do some good work to try to correct that particular false narrative - something originally spread from Iran's intel service no less (which sounds a lot like the discredited 2016 'dossier' which came from questionable Russian sources). But they clearly didn't do enough. Probably because they were on the brink of getting new massive sweeping powers.

This one's my favourite CIA story from that era, just straight-up blatant disregard for the law with zero repercussions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_CIA_interrogation_videota...

I sincerely hope I never hear the phrase "Russian dossier" again in my lifetime. The CIA seems to follow every place this phrase shows up.
Unlikely. With today's social media, AI boom, deep fakes, and ever increasing processing power, they can do their PSYOPs even better.
I'm sure the comment was an attempt at sarcasm.