[hiram112]

Why would it be an insult? I agree that if you went to a boot camp for 3 months and then began calling yourself a software engineer, it's a bit misleading. But what's the cut off line?

My CS program was in my school's college of engineering, which had a much more rigorous application process than the lib arts school. The first two years were essentially the same for CS, CE, MechE, ChemE, etc - lots of math and physics.

Maybe I'm just a bit sore. While society doesn't stereotype us as badly as before - the typical low status nerd - most of that improvement is due to SV engineers making such good money. But it still feels like we're not respected the same as other higher paying careers like law, medicine, or even other types of engineers. I mean I've actually had managers who probably make less than me assign me remedial tasks like fixing their laptop or resetting their password.

[danielscrubs]

Feel exactly the same. We just don't need so many engineers in the industry but we need busloads of software developers that learn Git and the latest design pattern.

It's a shame, because it's only one of them that I feel will stand the test of time.