[GordonS]

> AWS is combining all your networking charges into one lump "outgoing data transfer" fee

> So it might be fairer if AWS broke out separate line items for internal, incoming and outgoing data transfer

This explanation doesn't cut it for me - most (all?) "traditional" VPS providers don't charge for ingress traffic, and I doubt anyone, ever, has charged for internal traffic.

So what exactly is 'all the networking charges' comprised of, other than egress data?

[ben509]

AWS is vast. I have no idea what their overall accounting for networking looks like. Even for the tiny service I worked on, it would be tough to guess at what are overall costs were. We actually had an internal bill each month for all the regular AWS services we used, but then there were a host of internal services we depended on.

That companies don't charge for specific things doesn't mean those things don't cost them anything. It just means they're trying to work out a pricing scheme that scales with customer usage and is broadly understandable. So "data egress" is really just a proxy for "how much stuff you're doing with the networking subsystems of AWS."

Same thing with EC2, there are a whole pile of costs that are summed up with "time you rented an instance."

[GordonS]

See a lower comment I made here; what I really want is a little transparency about pricing.

Of course there are is an internal cost of doing business, and peripheral infrastructure cost - but if I pay $100 for service "A" I reasonably expect that fee pays for service "A". Instead, egress bandwidth costs seem to be used to trick customers into thinking services are cheaper than they really are.

[nostrebored]

How many of these VPS providers are actually managing global highly availabile network infrastructure?

[GordonS]

I would have presumed that the infrastructure cost for each service was included in the cost for each service.

For egress bandwidth costs, I'd assume it included, well, the egress bandwidth cost.

[e12e]

I guess there aren't that many global network providers - I'm not even sure how much fiber Amazon owns in Japan, Australia or Northern Europe for that matter.

But I think level3 is associated with:

https://www.centurylink.com/business/hybrid-it-cloud/public-...

And while they have a call-us price list (if you have to ask...) - they at least state:

"Public and Private high-capacity networking options up to 10Gbps. Note: there is no charge for internal data center traffic. Cost on a per-GB-out model"

I have no idea what they charge pr gb for this cloud product however.

[satanspastaroll]

When you do outbound networking, you're sending it out to the internet, not mangling it within AWS's network