[zenography]

To defend themselves, hundreds of thousands to millions of times per year.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3194685

[williamdclt]

> indicate that defensive uses of guns by crime victims are far more common than offensive uses by criminals

That's literally the worst case scenario. Victims escalating the violence.

[zenography]

Are you saying that people defending themselves is worse than killing?