[arcticbull]

> because i don't want to trust anyone. XRP is not trustless or decentralized enough.

And yet you trust the Internet to get packets to HN. You trust the government to administer the roads, the schools, the army, the police, the firefighters, and so on for days. The FDA to verify your drugs, Agriculture to verify your food.

You trust so many people every single day to make it through from breakfast to dinner, and yet this is where you draw the line for some reason you can't really quantify.

[keymone]

What you’re saying is basically “things are horrible so why don’t you just bend over and let somebody fuck you in this other aspect as well”.

Yes, that’s where I draw the line today. Governments used to challenge our right to free speech and even right to live free - we don’t accept that anymore. In my opinion it’s time to untangle governments and money. You’re free to disagree of course and you’re free to entrust all sorts of strangers to make all sorts of decisions in your life, just don’t expect others to do the same.

[arcticbull]

> You’re free to disagree of course and you’re free to entrust all sorts of strangers to make all sorts of decisions in your life, just don’t expect others to do the same.

You already do though. You're just entrusting a different set of un-elected un-accountable strangers with no economics degrees with your monetary policy -- the Bitcoin Core team. And the PRC where over 50% of the hash power is located. They could change the number of Bitcoin on issue, the rate, the block reward rate, anything, with zero recourse on your part. Your government is accountable to you, the core team, to themselves.

If you tell me they wont then you're trusting them not to unless you can point to a math equation preventing them, I guess.

You're describing a libertarian pipedream that can't exist.

[keymone]

> You're just entrusting a different set of un-elected un-accountable strangers with no economics degrees with your monetary policy -- the Bitcoin Core team

no i don't. they just happen to maintain the reference implementation.

> And the PRC where over 50% of the hash power is located

no trust involved here either.

> They could change the number of Bitcoin on issue, the rate, the block reward rate, anything, with zero recourse on your part.

no they can't and the fact that you think this means you have zero understanding of how bitcoin works.

> If you tell me they wont

i'm telling you they can't. bitcoin is defined by consensus rules and releasing a binary that breaks those rules or mining blocks that break those rules doesn't change bitcoin.

[arcticbull]

It’s the politics. If the core team decided to change the parameters of bitcoin at worst everyone would fall in line and at best it’d fork and you’d lose a whole lot of value.

[keymone]

It’d be a fork either way and that’s the point. Still no trust involved.

[arcticbull]

Then "faith" that people are going to continue to believe in the Bitcoin that you believe in. I mean it’s not scarce anyone can clone and fire up their own bitcoin.