[BurningFrog]

If you don't lobby for your selfish interests, you'll get out-regulated by companies who do. Lobbying is not an optional luxury. You have to do it. At least in politically sensitive industries.

As a partially made up example, I'm guessing the plastic straw industry didn't think they had to lay a groundwork lobbying for their existence over the decades. And now they're dead.

[jiveturkey]

I see your point, but bad example. There isn't a plastic straw industry. There is a plastic industry and a restaurant supply industry. There is no single focus on straws ...

And no they are not dead. Get our of your bubble. The places where plastic straws are not allowed is tiny, tiny tiny.

[BurningFrog]

I'm in San Francisco. Straws are as hard to find as housing or republicans.

Glad to hear there is more choice in other areas. But... what starts in SF tends to spread.