[loceng]

It's one reason I love the spirit of Tesla and Elon Musk: Tesla doesn't advertise. This means only once a product is good enough that it starts getting talked about, word of mouth - and that is the perfect mechanism, counterpoint, for a company to only gain attention when deserved vs. paying for it; the VC-finance industrial complex of course has allowed products, organizations, to bypass this most important mechanism of friction for "knowledge" propagation via pumping out select advertising messages, and only in last decade via highly targeted ads - allowing relative precision.

The convergence of these different factors in the last decade, including automation taking away jobs from Americans who want to work - along with regulatory capture that has allow bad policy and ability to pay $0 in taxes like Amazon - leading to societal unrest, increased suffering, allowing for a democracy that can be easily destabilized.

We see this now though - so we can steer the ship, leading to America once again becoming strong - an economic powerhouse, recapturing and rerealizing the rhetoric of American patriotism. Once these systems rebound with new guidance, the innovation of free minds directing resources efficiently toward health - toward being free and standing strong for our brothers and sisters, local and global - will lead to an unstoppable force - which hopefully will not require conflict to hold or expand the line of peace as different nations choose to adopt these systems for themselves - with our support and guidance.

[mAEStro-paNDa]

> including automation taking away jobs from Americans

What about the explicit intentional policy?

> along with regulatory capture that has allow bad policy and ability to pay $0 in taxes like Amazon

Don't you mean the lack of?

[loceng]

Not sure what you're referencing re: explicit intentional policy?

Re: Bad policy - certainly there is policy that was crafted to benefit industry at the cost of society, the environment, surely lacking good policy. Like why is VAT in existence in ~160 countries around the world but not in the US? Do you consider that lacking of policy? That's more regulatory capture leading to politicians being elected who protect the interests of those who helped pay to get them voted in.

[mAEStro-paNDa]

I'm talking about NAFTA and other trade deals like it. You referenced automation as taking jobs from Americans, when in reality trade deals arguably had much more of a role in doing that. I misread the second point, but I'm not sure what VAT has to do with anything here.

[loceng]

Why are you arguing one or the other? Why not both being a problem?