[nicoburns]

Here in the UK healthcare is seen as a right. Hospitals and recipients of organs don't pay for them, and nobody is making money off of donated bodies.

The idea that access to life-saving treatment is based on ability to pay, and that there are corporations making profit at the expense of people's health and well-being is pretty terrifying to me. There's nothing rational about such a system.

[lotsofpulp]

Ability to pay dictates all aspects of life. Whether the individual pays or their country, at the end, no one works for free.

That is why poor people in poorer countries than the U.K. don’t have access to life saving treatments. I’m sure even poor people in the U.K. don’t have access to the same care that rich people do.

[nicoburns]

> Ability to pay dictates all aspects of life.

Only under capitalism. That's precisely why this is terrifyingly capitalistic. Societies ability to produce dictates all aspects of life. But not necessarily ability to pay.

> I’m sure even poor people in the U.K. don’t have access to the same care that rich people do

Not if you're really rich (a millionaire). But even rich people in the UK will usually go for the NHS first. The care's pretty good.

[xwdv]

All aspects of life are ultimately dictated by something. If not by the ability to pay, then it will be by other things out of your control or your ability to curry favor with those who can get you what you want.

I’d prefer it just be dictated by pay and skip the bullshit.

[manigandham]

That's not what capitalism is. It's an economic system and has absolutely nothing to do with governance, policies, and the greater good.