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by nabla9 2441 days ago
I'm surprised that Warren takes this approach. Did she or her campaign really think this trough?

It seems like Trump successfully turned 'fake news' into mush where people can't distinguish between different categories of speech. Even Dems get confused and can't think starting from first principles. They are asking FB to sensor political speech.

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The point is that you can’t trust what you read on Facebook. It looks like they’ve made the point very effectively...

First, the ad itself makes the point viscerally through a bald-face lie. Second, by generating publicity around the ad, greatly multiplying it’s reach.

Do you in USA have some kind of protection of politicians being deflamed?

In Poland (but just during elections) you can sue other politicians with fast line process that takes I think 24 hours

I think she should aim to regulate ads on social media by some kind of institution, not make FB have more power

> Do you in USA have some kind of protection of politicians being deflamed? [sic; defamed]

We do, but our Supreme Court has ruled that, under the First Amendment to our Constitution, a public official (or candidate for public office) must prove that the defamatory statement was false AND that it was made with "actual malice," meaning that the accused libeler / slanderer either (i) knew the statement was false or (ii) recklessly disregarded whether or not it was true. [0] This is a pretty tough burden of proof for the plaintiff to carry, so most politicians don't bother suing for libel or slander.

[0] https://www.wikiwand.com/en/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan

That's probably the reason why i think Warren is the only likely candidate to beat trump. She takes a page from his book which imho proves she s more cunning than the other candidates. Her campaign motto is Make the middle class Great again or something (emphasis on RE-build). She has already found her scapegoats, instead of "china" and "mexicans" she has "big tech". And she s good with sticky slogans like 'i ve got a plan'.
I suspect that she was hoping for this ad to be banned so she can get some political talking point out of it. Facebook have a long-standing rule against claiming or implying endorsement by them in ads because it's a favourite tactic of scammers.
No they are asking to enforce a standard of "demonstrably false"
That's the problem. You ask company decide what is "demonstrably false". Not courts, just commercial interest.

Religious beliefs are for me demonstrably false, for example. If I were running FB and politicians would ask me do moderate that would not fly. This could work in reverse in FoxNews controlled media. No TV-ads with climate change message for example.