[Obi_Juan_Kenobi]

The pilot's did not perform ideally, but to say their actions were outside of what could be reasonably expected is foolish. This is a system for which they received no training, acts in an obscure and intermittent fashion, and is accompanied by a slew of cabin warnings.

Furthermore, with the overspeed and extreme trim, the trim wheel was likely inoperable, or else required so much force that the pilots reasonably thought it was inoperable. Due to the overspeed, the pilots were in an impossible situation where they concluded they needed electronic trim control while also knowing that this system was threatening their demise.

To place blame on the pilots is to plan to fail.

[ChicagoBoy11]

And not only that but follows a well established pattern of (poor) accident investigations which look at the most proximate event to the accident (the pilots on the cockpit) and assigns the blame to that instead of focusing on systemic issues which are much greater contributors to the overall situation which led to the accident.

[HarryHirsch]

The pilots did the best they could. They increased airspeed to have at least some lift despite the excessive mistrim, and they turned electric trim back on because in the 737-NG autotrim stops when the yoke is pulled. No one told them about MCAS and how it behaves different from the model that they knew.

[bbojan]

I think there is a lot of misinformation in your post.

The pilots didn't follow the airspeed unreliable procedure, and oversped the aircraft. Maybe it's the best they could do, but definitely not what they were expected (and trained) to do.

Electric trim is not turned off "when the yoke is pulled" - it's momentarily turned off when electric trim thumb switches on the yoke are pressed.

And they switched it back on because they couldn't manually re-trim due to very high speed that the plane was travelling at that point.

BTW the airplane was a 737 Max, not 737-NG.

[ScottBurson]

> BTW the airplane was a 737 Max, not 737-NG.

I believe the parent's point was that they did what would have made sense in the NG, not realizing it wouldn't have the same result in a Max.