[Kiro]

Hacker News is the complete opposite nowadays. People who tries to maximize productivity are frowned upon. The norm is to put your family, friends, travelling and stuff like that before anything else.

[amptorn]

Productivity is just value you create for people who aren't you. Family, friends and travelling is value you create for yourself.

[olyjohn]

Having family and friends creates value for them too.

[blunte]

There's a visible shift in HN, but I certainly don't see HN so extreme on the end that you are stating as absolute.