[wbronitsky]

If I read this correctly, your post can be summarized as: "Disclaimer, people should have rights... yadda yadda yadda. But..... would it be so bad if they didn't have rights?"

I, for one, don't care at all about the positive externalities of taking away people's rights, nor do I see the merit in discussing them. It normalizes the taking away of rights when we discuss how great it could be when you aren't allowed access to information and freedom of movement.