[dfasdfasd]

It's great that they've improved, but I'm still confused about the hype. The best Dysons I've used are worse than my old, $400 Miele. They may be competitive now, but it took them 10 revisions to get to a point other manufacturers have been at for 20 years.

They feel like a vacuum marketing company more than anything. People seem to like them because they've only ever used $100 vacuums and it's their first time with something better, so it feels awesome in comparison.

[oxplot]

V6, V7 ... V10, these are all battery powered one handed vacuum cleaners that have zero setup time and few seconds to clean and put away. Is your $400 Miele in this category or are you comparing this with a wall powered vacuum that has 1000w and unlimited power at its disposal?

[dfasdfasd]

I have two comparisons in mind. I've used a corded, $500 Dyson, and it's really awful. So many little, annoying design decisions and just an overall lack of power for a corded vacuum.

For the cordless ones, I've used the V7 (I think), and it's worse than a comparable Bosch.

Again, I'm not saying that Dysons are bad or anything... It's just the hype seems to far outmatch the actual quality when you go to use them, and it's taken them years and years just to get competitive.

[nordsieck]

> People seem to like them because they've only ever used $100 vacuums and it's their first time with something better, so it feels awesome in comparison.

This is my experience with Cutco knives. They're better than the absolute bottom of the barrel eversharp stuff you can get for $10, but worse than anything that actually looks like a proper kitchen knife.

I think the main reason they get any business is that most people never sharpen their kitchen knives, which is a lot less expensive than buying a set of Cutcos (I get that there's a social pressure aspect as well, but that wouldn't work nearly as well if it were more clear how garbage Cutco's products are).

[beauzero]

Milwaukee Smooth Insulation knife. They cost ~$20, are full tang, and sharpen very easily. They have become our go to kitchen knife. Best bang for the buck imho. People who did duct work and attic batting were found to be using $200-$300 kitchen knives. Milwaukee went back to the drawing board and came up with an excellent product.

[nordsieck]

IMO, if you're looking for low cost, the Ikea 365+ knife set is the best thing out there. It's 3 pieces for $30 and comes with a Chef's knife.

The steel is mediocre, but not so different from high end German knives (if you want good steel, Japanese is the way to go).

[sitharus]

I've had both a decently priced Miele and a Dyson barrel vacuum before (can't remember the model numbers now, this was a while ago) and when dealing with pets and my wife's hair the Dyson wins hands down. The Miele clogged horribly. I guess it depends on what you're vacuuming, but I'd try Miele again.

Now I have a Dyson V-8 cordless and it works fine. It runs long enough to vacuum the whole house and a bit more and is more convenient than anything corded.