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by stan_rogers 2445 days ago
I'll go along with saying it's not "just as bad"; it's far, far worse, especially when training. Disappearing things are incredibly disorienting to non-expert users.
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It is worth stating that in neither case does it function without a relevant item selected.

Meaning with the graph design toolbar, it would be visible, but do absolutely nothing until a graph is selected. With the Ribben it appears when the graph is selected.

I don't see how a disabled toolbar, with no clue how to enable it, helps with user training or clarity.

The disabled toolbar is easier because it still gives context and confidence you are looking in the right place.

'This is what I want...hmm...how do I make it work?' is a far easier process than 'I can't find what I want...where on earth is it?..does it even exist?'

And that waste of screen real estate necessitates other design tradeoffs that are more sub optimal than the ribbon.