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by johnchristopher 2452 days ago
English isn't my first language but self-made seems to me to be about the self as in opposition to others.

And I have always understood the word to be used in that sense.

See the Collins definition (emphasis mine):

Self-made is used to describe people who have become successful and rich through their own efforts, especially if they started life without money, education, or high social status.

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/self-ma...

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Giving orders to others are your actions/efforts/decisions so it entirely suits the definition.
"I ask my mom and dad to connect me to their old money friends to get some low rate loans to bootstrap my business. I am self made because I asked my mom and dad for the connection. And I also ask them to co-sign the lease for my office."

HN Argumentum_ad_dictionarium at its finest. It's getting tiring.

You can't take credit for someone else's work.

If I was capable of issuing every possible order to every employee, am I more entitled to the profits derived from their output if they happen to do something I mentioned?