[pjc50]

Declaring something to be artificial is a useless dismissal. Names are artificial, but we don't say that nobody has a name.

> If somebody wanted to kill you - you could fight - or you could become useful to the person with the power to kill you.

This is the "everything is a power struggle view", and a particularly simplified version of it too. Primitive societies added the "establish a norm of revenge or blood feud by your relatives" as another resolution. This developed upwards into "official" retribution from the king as proto-state, and thence into law as we know it today.

> recording of decisions - ie a vote at the end of every thread.

They're not debates with motions and resolutions. If they were, you'd also need a process for "this motion is not well formed or decidable".

[DrScientist]

Hmm that's what I said.... that 'rights' are an outcome of negotiation, not some inalienable thing not open to negotiation.