[yters]

Sure it depends on what manner, but what is wrong with a regime change? I am sure there are plenty of Falun Gong, Muslims and Christians who would not mind a freer government. I think only US business would mind because they would not have such easy access to cheap labor and electrical and human parts.

[boomboomsubban]

>Sure it depends on what manner, but what is wrong with a regime change?

The incredibly bloody events that are likely to happen enacting a regime change that wouldn't ensure a freer government.

[yters]

Yes I agree. Revolution is not the way. That's how China for into the current mess. But I see no problem with assisting with regime change from within.

[boomboomsubban]

So you want to replace Xi with some other member of the Politburo? Pulling that off seems unlikely to help much, and failure would strengthen his position.

I don't know any other internal regime change that isn't a revolution.

[yters]

I think the biggest is from the rest of the world. We are complicit because we happily buy goods from such a horrible regime. We need an international boycott on China until they shape up.

Ideological. Communism and human rights violation are seen as acceptable due to a specific worldview. Demonstrating the error with the worldview can change people's minds and lead to internal regime change.

[boomboomsubban]

>. We need an international boycott on China until they shape up.

Right, so you want to economically cripple China over human rights abuses. Not only is this likely to end in war, millions would likely die from supply shortages.

>Demonstrating the error with the worldview can change people's minds and lead to internal regime change

The capitalist societies banding together to starve China out is unlikely to convert them to your side. It didn't the last time we tried.

[cthalupa]

Ah, yes. We should continue the status quo, where China continues to perpetuate human rights abuses, as well as utilizing their economic power to influence and control international companies.

We're enabling and funding this. We should stop.

[yters]

Probably there's a bit of a continuum here between starving China and not batting an eye as they scoop the living eyes out of some poor Falun Gong after they slice him open and cut out all his organs.