[Eldt]

Sounds like you're describing the same thing. I've seen many comments defend China and try to turn attention towards actions done by the US.

[yters]

What US actions are equivalent to China? If you were in China could you make the same argument regarding Chinese actions?

[TeMPOraL]

I initially read kkarakk's comment as a reverse of what I wrote, but even if we're talking the same, I personally believe that any and all accusations of whataboutism are just thought-terminating cliches and are invalid from the start.