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by romwell 2451 days ago
>Why do we expect that people should live in house or have a home?

Because we aren't cavemen anymore.

And a tent is a home, just a shabby, crappy, small one.

>Why we wouldn't have camping spots in cities with infrastructure that supports living outside?

Because people also need to eat and poop and shower somewhere, and be protected from the elements, and once you incorporate all that, you get a hostel/shelter.

I'll take your comment as an opportunity to say this:

Yes, we absolutely should have more infrastructure for the homeless.

Let's have public baths, public toilets, storage facilities, communal kitchens perhaps. Internet access (libraries do that, but that shouldn't be the only place).

Travelers would appreciate many of these as well.

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Have you ever camped in a camping spot somewhere? You get electricity, bathrooms, access to kitchen etc.

If we could accept the fact that some people want to live on the streets, we would be able to make their life much easier and better without imposing a certain philosophy on how they should be living.

Civilization is exactly about imposing a philosophy on how people should live. Like it or not, that's how it works. If you don't want to play ball, there are plenty of open spaces in the US where people can live off the land without creating a public health hazard.

If people don't want to be homeless, we should do everything in our power to help them get into housing, sustainably. But if they do? No thanks, do that somewhere else, where the land can be reasonably and cost-effectively set up to support that. One of the most expensive, highly-regulated real estate markets in the US is not that place.

Philosophy on how people should live is not a set in stone.

It's a moving target and it should be moving in a direction of achieving the best outcome for everyone, regardless if they're investment bankers or heroin addicts.

People thinking like you have been trying to stop progress since we got down from the trees. It's this ridiculous idea that how things are now is something that has to be kept and preserved.

It is a disservice to humanity - those ideas never survive history test, just cause better future for everyone to come later than it could.

> People thinking like you have been trying to stop progress since we got down from the trees. It's this ridiculous idea that how things are now is something that has to be kept and preserved.

Wait, aren't you the one arguing people should move back up into the trees? Well, not even the trees, you are just arguing they should live on the ground, and even our primitive primate ancestors weren't stupid enough to want to do that.

I'm arguing that everyone should be living as close to how they want as possible
Yeah, most people actually love to be homeless and live in tents. The housing crisis isn't real.
So it is society to blame for one’s decision to not be employed, be addicted to intoxicants, and behave feral? The grandiose entitlement certainly is real.
Yeah, how dare people want to sleep in a bed under a roof. So entitled.
>Have you ever camped in a camping spot somewhere? You get electricity, bathrooms, access to kitchen etc.

There are many people for which the definition of camping specifically excludes those things.

But how am I going to plug in all this stuff I got from Skymall?