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by rorymarinich 5627 days ago
Only if she had a certain intolerance for that kind of behavior. I don't think it should be expected that she has to conform to their behavior. That's not the polite expectation, anyway.

I don't associate with many geekier types of people, despite a lot of overlapping interests, for precisely this reason. I'm very sensitive and easily hurt/annoyed by that kind of behavior. So I avoid a lot of things that I'm actively interested in because the crowd is so abominable. The gaming world in particular; I don't even look at games which draw is online play, because I've never found an online gaming community that I've felt comfortable being a part of.
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gaius 5627 days ago
True, but equally true if he'd had experience of girls/non-geeks/whoever he'd be more likely to adjust his delivery accordingly.

Basically I don't hold with the notion that there is a gang of males deliberately driving women away from tech.

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rorymarinich 5627 days ago
Oh, definitely not deliberately! But inaction can be just as harmful sometimes, if our natural actions are serving to drive others away.

The argument isn't whether or not some people, including many women, are turned off by the current culture of programming. They absolutely are. The argument is whether it's the responsibility of the current culture to try and adjust its ways to let more people in, or if it's okay to let it stay the way it is. People in this thread are making arguments for each side.

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gaius 5627 days ago
What do men do when entering female dominated professions (e.g. primary school teaching)?

After the government forces them to prove they're not pedophiles, of course. Say what you like about the software industry, we don't have ritual humiliation baked into law.

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