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by foopdoopfoop 2462 days ago
American living in Germany here. (I also speak pretty decent German.)

I think it's hard to compare two countries like this. There's a lot more than just the objective differences--it's easy to be miserable in an objectively "better" country.

I am absolutely miserable in Germany. I don't have a particularly good reason to be; I just hate it. It simply disagrees with me, even though--objectively--Germany is a better place to live than many of the other countries I lived in.

My advice is apply for jobs in both countries. Get on-site interviews, and go to Toronto and Berlin. It's important that you see for yourself, so you can really make an informed decision.

The bit you wrote about transferring to Silicon valley, etc seems premature to me. You don't really know what you'll be doing in the future: neither choice here is bad. Choose which seems the best now, unless you have a specific, realistic goal for the future that one option enables better than the other. But without that: go to both cities and just see what you like.

Comparing salaries is also premature: you don't even have offers yet. It's all just conjecture. If both cities are serious contenders for you, apply to jobs in both and see.

(Besides, German CS salaries are definitely nothing to write home about either. And many things in Germany are more expensive: cars, gas, electricity, basically all consumer goods, etc)

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I'm curious why you are miserable? I live in Prague and visit Germany 3-4 times a year and really enjoy it. Better food at restaurants and much better selection of food in the stores. However, I am not paying German taxes, health care or rent so I don't know much about actually living there.
On paper, I ought to be fine here. Germanic life doesn't jive with me, that's all. I feel very culturally isolated and alienated and would go so far as to say that I find the German aesthetic/way-of-life somehow depressing.

I spent various parts of my childhood in Germanic countries and was going through a difficult time then as a kid. I think I've been unable to separate that time from my perception/understanding of Germanic countries and that that has a lot to do with it as well.

Plenty of Germans I've met here in Montreal echo the same concern; that the German way-of-life is depression inducing. Everything works decently well but it saps the strength from you to have the kind of vivacity and challenges that, while don't make life any safer or easier, make life worth living.

Atleast, that's my interpretation of what I've been told. It's a little what English Canada felt to me now that I've moved to French Canada. It's safe and fine but nothing's really happening. Your relationships aren't going anywhere; your career is basically about paying an oversized mortgage.

As a canadian who as moved to Europe here are some of my points that have nothing to do with money but a bit.

1) More indians in toronto more food and less likely to fee lonely 2) Make more in EU but costs other than housing are more 3) Easier to start a company in Canada 4) Easier to fit in culturally in Canada 5) Too many immigrants to Toronto make competition killer 6) Need a car