[kchamplewski]

Domain joining means connecting the machine to a Windows domain allowing domain user accounts to be used, and allowing for the domain to administer the machine.

It's actually quite a helpful option to have, but it's completely absurd for the only way to create a local account to be via the domain join option.

[mgkimsal]

My knee jerk reaction would be that 'domain join' would be something reserved for connecting to enterprise domains - it might ask me for an active directory connection or something (which, if I'm offline, I wouldn't even think to try in the first place). "domain join" for a single user machine? I wouldn't even make the connection.

[lozf]

That's clearly what MS are hoping for.

[samstave]

Clearly, but that is something us sysads for decades get...

You think that joe mechanic who just bought his daughter a new machine has any of this lexicon.

Whomever is responsible for all of this bullshit at MS should be hit in the face with a shovel.

Recently, and I’ve been in tech since 1997, I bought an office lic at Costco because I needed excel on a machine...

You know what a pain in the ass it is to install office on a generic factory machine with the new bs. They want to tie that install to an outlook account.

Nope. I just want excel this machine won’t even be connected to the internet. But MS says fuck-you-because-thats-why.

[imglorp]

If don't need 100 pct of Excel's bazillion features, Libre Office is a decent alternative. It works with Excel files, doesn't need Windows (but it can run there), and doesn't nag you to join any clouds. And it's free. There's very few home users who actually need full Office.

[vetinari]

My non-favorite pain point with LibreOffice are Excel tables (https://support.office.com/en-us/article/overview-of-excel-t...). Home users won't be missing them, but Excel power users will.

[samstave]

Excel is a requirement for the integration I want to do to another program: bartender

To print barcodes and labels in serial with an ODBC connection... so libre won’t work

[imglorp]

Libre does support ODBC, perhaps not exactly the same way though.

[samstave]

Its on the reverse.... bartender (from seagul scientific, which their software is fantastic by the way) doesn’t support it...

I have a bug filed with them where if you build a thing in google sheets and export to xlsx and attempt to connect to that data source it crashes.... (but if it is native xlsx it works fine) hence my need to install excel on that particular machine, as the bartender software can take tabular input for varying data for each sticker printed ( cannabis compliance labels, which I have now mastered)

They are a great company though, and bartender is an amazing program. I suggest everyone download their free version and learn it.

[jmnicolas]

Every time I click the "domain join" button when I install a PC at work it never even ask which domain I want to join. I have to do it once the OS is fully installed.

[Kuinox]

The "offline account" was simply renamed to domain join. If it's an sentence selection error i won't be suprised. In this panel, there is nothing about domain join.