[chantelles]

I'm centering the conversation around sex work from the sex worker perspective. Does everyone who works prefer to be independent? Or do many prefer a boss to deal with the day to day? These are basic sex worker educations I received while working in the community (in Toronto).

[_bfhp]

Can we say that this counts as "the sex worker perspective?"

> Rachel Moran, a former prostitute who considers the purchase of sex an act of violence against women... holds a very different opinion on who the victims of prostitution are: "The acceptance of prostitution makes all women potential prostitutes in the public view since there are only two requirements for a woman to work in a brothel: one is that circumstance has placed her so […] and the other is that she has a vagina, and all women are born meeting at least one of these requirements."

[1] https://sarahditum.com/2014/02/24/who-do-you-listen-to/

[chantelles]

No. That counts as an anti-sex worker perspective. Sex work takes skill, talent, customer service skills and most sex workers derive the bulk of their profit from regular customers who they build relationships with. Also, sex workers are a diverse group who all hold different opinions and experiences of work. Just like some people still like working at Facebook and Google, and some do not.

[_bfhp]

"Anti-sex worker?" The quote gives no opinion about sex workers, only about the men who buy sex and women collectively as a class.

I can't help but be reminded of how people cast Jewish pro-human-rights criticism of the Israeli government as "self-hating Jews..."

[philwelch]

So you’re not actually just advocating for the “sex worker perspective”; you’re also an apologist for pimps.

[chantelles]

Did you know that, according to Canadian sex work laws, living off the avails of prostitution is criminal. So, any sex workers with children face the reality that their children can/will be arrested for the same laws created to protect them from pimps. Also, it is an interesting thought experiment to ask yourself what you know about pimps that is not from white supremacist cultural productions.

[philwelch]

> Also, it is an interesting thought experiment to ask yourself what you know about pimps that is not from white supremacist cultural productions.

Ah, there it is.