[shawnz]

> When they're tipped via apps, they don't even get to keep them.

I thought the only one still doing this was DoorDash, and they reversed it after the recent backlash?

[untog]

It's nebulous. Apps that employ(/contract/whatever) their delivery drivers separately from the restaurant have a clear picture, but when you leave a tip on a site like Seamless the money goes to the restaurant. You certainly hope the restaurant is distributing that to the staff, but you don't know for sure.

[deminature]

It's not nebulous, the policies are very clear. Tips 100% go to the driver on every network except Doordash [1].

[1] https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tipping-policies-delivery-ser...

[untog]

Interesting, in my experience (in NYC) Seamless and the like absolutely do not employee the delivery drivers. They are employed by the restaurants. Though apparently in some areas they do employ drivers:

https://ny.eater.com/2016/4/14/11433288/seamless-delivery-dr...

In NYC at least my comment is still true. When Seamless does not employ the driver, you do not know where your tip is going.

[dustinmr]

I also don’t particularly know if a restaurant pays tips to their wait staff when I pay a bill with a credit card.

[untog]

Yep. Both good reasons to tip cash.

[shawnz]

Tipping cash doesn't provide any guarantee either. For example mandatory tip pooling is legal in many places.