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Stupid statement. Nature doesn't care about country borders. Per capita emissions from India are extremely low compared to countries like the US.

The same site says that the US has "critically insufficient" commitments towards climate change.

https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/usa/

Maybe look at your own country before blaming others. You have more work to do towards climate change than the Indians.

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Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome on HN, and you crossed into it egregiously in this thread. That is not allowed on HN, regardless of how badly someone else is behaving. Moreover, your account has been using HN primarily for this purpose; we ban accounts that do that, because it is destructive of the intellectual curiosity HN exists for. I've banned your account for this reason, but if you'd like to review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and email [e-mail] with reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future, we'll be happy to unban you.

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> Nature doesn't care about country borders.

You are right, what nature actually cares greatly, is about exponential population growth with no regard for future sustainability.

Maybe we should look at India's over-population before demanding other countries to sacrifice for India's (and many countries in South East Asia) shortsightedness.

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> You are right, what nature actually cares greatly, is about exponential population growth with no regard for future sustainability.

Perfect, I was waiting for you to say this. Now I have the chance to educate you (which should have been done by your "superior western education" but anyway).

Read these articles and you will find that exponential growth is a myth. We are already close to replacement levels. The population is high in India and China only because of historic reasons - they are one of the most fertile lands on the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_union_terri...

Then watch this video to understand the real trends in population growth.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezVk1ahRF78

Great! You finally rid yourself of these myths.

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> We are already close to replacement levels

We are at those levels for almost 50 years now in "the west". Guess you are conveniently disregarding the mess you created over this last half century(and long before when the growth in India was 6 children per couple while in the USA it was 3).

Here is a novel idea for you: you use the resources available by your territory as you see fit as long as you don't destroy the rest of the planet for us. If you choose to do it with double your population or half your population, is solely your sovereign choice and we have nothing to say about it. The same way you shouldn't have anything to say about how we use our resources with our - in check - population where people - for a very long time now - mostly think twice about if they can actually support a child with the resources available (natural or economic) before having it.

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> We are at those levels for almost 50 years now in "the west".

Even with 1/4th of the population of India, and having access to latest technology, the US has emitted obscene levels of CO2 in the last 50 years [0] and has not shown much signs of improvement. And you are blaming a 70-year old country that was in post-colonial shambles 50 years ago. You should be ashamed of yourself.

> don't destroy the rest of the planet for us.

Peak arrogance. Isn't it you who is destroying the planet with your luxury lifestyle? Take a look at [0]. You expect poor people that barely have enough food on their plate to reduce their living standards? That's never going to happen - it is you who needs to do that. The people in India will continue to work towards improving their living standards, as they deserve to.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_di...

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> Good luck stopping us.

It's so sad that you don't even realize that:

1. You are doming us all, you included.

2. India will actually be one of the first countries to deeply suffer from an increase in temperature.

> Guess why that happened? Because of illiteracy due to poverty - because of your colonising ancestors.

Mugal empire reaps the territory for over 400 years, nobody bats an eye. British are there for 90 years... suddenly everything is their fault, even if India continues with their totally backward ways 70 years after the British left them to rule themselves as they see fit.

P.S.: I don't know why you continue to wave the anti USA flag. I have nothing to do with the USA (or UK for that matter). So sad.

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> You are doming us all, you included.

Nope. India's rise was always going to happen. It's not their fault if they want to increase their living standards. Thus, India is not "dooming us all".

But if you are from a country that has high per-capita emissions (I'm assuming you are from one) then your country is much more responsible for the problem. So you are dooming us all, because you can do something about it but you choose not to (because of your selfish need to live luxuriously).

> India will actually be one of the first countries to deeply suffer from an increase in temperature.

That's the harsh reality, but we have to accept it. Because of the large population, many will still survive. And I hope they then get to have the same lifestyle enjoyed by others in the developed world. Being a massive country, India has a lot resources and will prevail even after such a disaster happens.

> Mugal empire reaps the territory for over 400 years, nobody bats an eye. British are there for 90 years... suddenly everything is their fault

Another chance to educate yourself :) Please read [1]. Unlike British, Mughals (not Mugals) stayed in India. So this did not really result in wealth flowing out of the country.

[1] https://www.quora.com/Who-hurt-India-the-most-the-British-or...