[TheGallopedHigh]

This would not be a good measure of society.

[austincheney]

The best measure of society is compromise and social valor. Those who have neither deserve none.

[happytoexplain]

I can't tolerate the concept that people don't "deserve" basic things like health treatment based on their behavior. It's sick to me, and a hallmark of a sick society.

[thrower123]

Health treatment isn't really a basic thing. I find it really bizarre how people keep trying to write in more and more luxury goods as god-given rights.

Whenever I think of rights, it is things that society and other people must not do, rather than something that other people must provide for me.

[kwhitefoot]

Think of it as a duty. Love thy neighbour and all that.

[austincheney]

You are saying people deserve a certain level of care regardless of their harassing behavior while waiting for such care and that you are utterly intolerant of any disagreement.

A sick society is one that cannot handle minor disagreements.

[freeflight]

A sick society is one that lets people suffer out of a desire for revenge.

[austincheney]

A preference to not serve someone who has a malicious intent is not revenge.

[asfarley]

Can you tolerate the concept that nobody "deserves" anything, and that decision-making should be based mostly on outcomes?

[AstralStorm]

Are you willing to compromise your definition of who is deserving? If not, you're a hypocrite.

And whatever valor is, nobody agrees exactly. Building a society on such nebulous things is a great way to end up with some kind of extremist -ism.

[austincheney]

> And whatever valor is, nobody agrees exactly.

You don’t get to extremism from tolerance and diversity. Acceptance of minor disagreements is a good thing.