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by omisnomis 2460 days ago
Hey,

I'm the CodeTips founder/owner, and I'm grateful for your feedback.

I'd like to get this to a position that your niece and nephew are able to use it, so if you're willing to continue the discussion that would be great.

Just to address your concerns....

- Where I have referenced previous articles, they are linked. For example the `if` reference is a link, that will take you to the article explaining that concept. I just checked the articles you mentioned, and the links are there and working.

- you're absolutely right that the articles are from latest - oldest. It wasn't necessarily built to be a "course", but I can see why the structure could be confusing. The balance is not having to make returning users scroll to the bottom to find new content, perhaps I could add a button that allows the user to sort the articles as they want to see them?

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It sounds like they would like a "start here" link, not having to click random articles and follow the rabbit-hole back to the beginning - that's all.
That's fair. The issue with a "start here" page is the site is not designed to be a journey necessarily.

Obviously all the beginner articles are first, but then you have different language articles, serverless articles, intermediate articles etc. You could take any of those paths.

Does that make sense?

sorry I didn't see your replies sooner, thanks for taking the time to respond.

As the other response said, it's about not knowing where to begin. The nephew I had in mind is a complete newb, if he hit this site he'd be lost immediately because all the articles assume prior knowledge - except, presumably, the earliest articles in the beginner tag.

It may be that some specific navigation is needed for these beginners; but at the current scale it may not need even code, but simply an article that is 'New reader? Start here!', which goes on to describe places readers at various levels might start reading the site. "If you know a little programming in another language but want to learn Javascript, try here!..." etc.

However, as you scale up, readers will be thrown by articles in other topics appearing 'next' in their reading material, simply because that's when it was written. Having chosen a tag, that should be sticky for navigation. It turns out that all the 'Beginner' articles were written in sequence so they're fine; but you can see the issue starting from https://www.codetips.co.uk/javascript-introduction/ and clicking 'next' from the perspective of someone who clicked into the 'Javascript' tags? Or if you add more Beginner articles later, they would no longer be in sequence.

Anyway, I hope my criticism has been constructive and wish you all the best in helping new programmers...I've a big family-there's an almost inexhaustible supply of nephews&nieces getting to the age I'd like them to read this ;)

I think a very simple solution is to use categories. Tag articles under things like "beginner", "intermediate" etc. Don't be afraid to use multiple categories and group article sets together.

Simple change but it would make huge payoffs UX-wise.

Edit: I wasn't very clear. I realize you have those top level tags already, but I was referring to further group articles that "flow" into each other. That way you can have a "journey" without actually having one :)

Thanks for the feedback! Are you able to share any examples of where a different tag would work better?
Just a quick thought example would be something like:

Article Title Tagged: Beginner, JavaScript, Variables

So in this example the user knowns that it's a beginner set > focused on JavaScript > specific to variables

Maybe oversimplistic, but it's just a concept.