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by cadlin 2460 days ago
France pays less for healthcare than the US and gets more. A lot more.

To pick a statistic, their maternal mortality rate is 1/3 of the US.

Because the US is a wealthier country overall it can waste more money and receive worse results. That isn't an argument in favor the US healthcare system.

Also, do you realize that the graph you are citing isn't tracking the cost of US healthcare to a US citizen, it is literally saying Americans spend 5% of their personal income on health insurance. It is not counting the taxes they already pay, the cost to their employers, etc.

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The point is that the cost of healthcare doesn’t eat up the income difference between the typical American family and typical European family.

Note also that trying to compare health outcomes between countries is extremely difficult. Asians in the US live longer than Asians in countries with excellent healthcare systems like Japan.[1] Puerto Rico has a similar life expectancy to Denmark or Germany, even though if it were a US state it would be the poorest.

Maternal mortality rate varies by a factor of 10 between US states. The maternal mortality rate in West Virginia is only a somewhat higher than Germany and the UK, while the rate in New York is twice as high and New Jersey is four times higher. Massachusetts and California are lower than France.

[1] Asian American men live longer than white women.

Did the cost match when you add the school debt, a thing that in general does not exist in EU?

Did you use PPP to evaluate value?

School debt amounts to very little. Most Americans have no student loans. For the people who do, the median debt is $25,000, which is less than the average American new car loan. Even for recent graduates, 1/3 have no student loans and the average loan is $30,000. And the government limits repayment to 10% of disposable income.