[vpmpaul]

>psychedelics

Every "epiphany" that someone has told me they had while on psychedelics has been something that easily could have been come up with a bit of quite time and thought.

I have never heard a single story that blew me away or offered anything but mundane "insights" that easily could be gotten other ways.

Its time for the "psychedelics" people to come clean and just admit they are simply getting high.

[monktastic1]

Have you seen any of the studies where psychedelics are able to resolve conditions like anxiety and depression that are resistant to other treatments? When a person goes through that kind of epiphany, it may sound insipid in words -- and thus not blow you away or sound like mundane "insights" -- but insights don't always have to be verbalizable. "Life is miraculous" sounds pretty obvious, but there are certainly times where it's more "in your face" than others.

[vpmpaul]

I was talking about these "grand revelations" people claim to get. Medical use is an entirely different thing.

Your second half just reinforces my original point. Its an "experience" ie just getting high.

[reassembled]

That's a profoundly cynical view on experiencing, well, anything really. That's like saying couples in love should just wake up to the fact that an experience of love has zero nuance and can be summed up with a single word.

[vpmpaul]

My point is no one is going to cure cancer or solve global issues because of psychedelics.

I have no issues with experiencing things. I just don't like that people try to sell it like it is anything more than that.

[rmrm]

They are profound to the experiencer precisely because they are experienced. They are seen and felt in an entirely absorbing manner.

[hatchershoes]

Have you had a psychedelic experience?