[human20190310]

I googled the quote, and based on the context here [0], it seems like the demographic being referred to is non-male.

What's wrong with reviewing hiring processes to determine if they're excluding a demographic that contains individuals who would have done well in the role?

[0] https://cate.blog/2019/05/15/addressing-hiring-gaps-through-...

EDIT: The tl;dr for the article is that they're doing research on "how the people you didn’t hire would have done".

[notzuck]

There's nothing wrong with reviewing your hiring processes to audit for equality. Outright saying that you attract a demographic that you DO NOT WANT TO HIRE FROM is a whole different level of problem. Might as well say no blacks and irish. That whole quote could be associated with various different ethnic groups over the years depending on the time it was written. in 2019, that type of quote should not exist.

[ceejayoz]

> Outright saying that you attract a demographic that you DO NOT WANT TO HIRE FROM is a whole different level of problem.

That's not what was said. Nothing in that quote implies "we will hire zero men".

[notzuck]

She literally said she gets applications from a demographic that she doesn't want to hire from.... am I missing something here? You can't just say I have too many Asians and therefore would prefer to have my applicants not be Asian.

[ceejayoz]

If she literally says that, please quote it.

[notzuck]

"we realized that the demographics of people we attract to apply are not inline with the demographics of the people we hope to hire."

I already quoted....

[ceejayoz]

That quote does not support your statement "She literally said she gets applications from a demographic that she doesn't want to hire from...". She did not literally (or even figuratively) say anything of the sort.

"We'd like a more diverse pool of applicants" does not mean "we'd like a pool of applicants with zero of <over-represented demographic> in it".

It doesn't even mean they want less of that demographic at all. It can (and likely should) be read as wanting a larger applicant pool overall, adding in folks from demographics who simply aren't applying currently.

[human20190310]

I'm assuming "the demographics of the people we hope to hire" means demographics that match the population at large. They should have been more clear about what that meant.

Nevertheless, if the demographic profile of their hires doesn't correspond to the demographics of the population they're embedded in, it's reasonable to question whether 1) they're unfairly excluding people and 2) the extent to which the people they're excluding could have contributed.

[kd3]

Read all the way to the end.

[human20190310]

I did. It's a call for women and non-binary people to participate in a survey, not get a job. They're trying to assess the people that are under-represented in their hiring, not hire them preferentially.