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But at the same time the other side is arguing that the tactics used to this end involve misquoting and lying about what he said.

In the end it is two groups of people having two correlated (but different) conversations.

Many (not all, but many) of RMS "defenders" here would completely agree if not for this backhanded tactics, as some are only asking for proper representation of facts.

The fact that a lot of "takedown" pieces continue to lie means that they force together two groups of people that do not necessarily agree.