[Crinus]

What is the problem with that?

Besides for most people to be able to watch Netflix, some people will need to make Netflix. If there aren't enough people to make Netflix, something else will be made but at the end of the day there is no way nobody will do anything - if nothing else, people will be bored and actively want to do something.

[chmod775]

There's nothing better than boredom for inspiration and motivation.

[dsfyu404ed]

You seem to be under the assumption that the masses will find inspiration and motivation to do things you don't find disagreeable.

I'm emphatically for people having the resources to pursue whatever the heck the want (even if that's sitting around drinking beer) but I think that most of the UBI crowd is out of touch with how the people who will most benefit from UBI will use their newfound freedom. Covering poor people's housing and food expenses isn't going to magically make them want to spend their time acting upper middle class. You give people freedom and they will act how they want, not necessarily how you want. I'd still call that a win but many will not.

[chmod775]

> Covering poor people's housing and food expenses isn't going to magically make them want to spend their time acting upper middle class.

You seem to be under the assumption that the majority of "poor people" behave the way they are portrayed in "reality" TV shows or whatever you're consuming that makes you think this way.

In fact most are no different from the "upper middle class", except for the amount of money they can freely spend. Do you honestly believe they're somehow wired differently just because they're poor?

Watch less TV, interact more with actual people.

[dsfyu404ed]

>You seem to be under the assumption that the majority of "poor people" behave the way they are portrayed in "reality" TV shows or whatever you're consuming that makes you think this way.

You seem to be making a lot of assumptions about my life experience and who I don't associate with.

>In fact most are no different from the "upper middle class", except for the amount of money they can freely spend. Do you honestly believe they're somehow wired differently just because they're poor?

Yes, people are very much the same on some level but it's pure lunacy to pretend that one's life experience does not have any effect on shaping a person's standards and preferences. If you give a poor person a good paycheck they will probably pick a few areas to indulge but they will not magically upscale their entire lives. Their standards and tastes will take quite some time (if ever) to adapt to the lack of economic scarcity. (Obviously I'm speaking in generalizations here and my statements are subject individual variance.)

You can leave the trailer park but the trailer park will never leave you.

>Watch less TV, interact more with actual people.

Since we're sinking to this level you should get out of your gated community and internet echo chambers.

[Crinus]

FWIW i'd also call that a win... but perhaps i do not see what could possibly go wrong :-P

[kmjg88nvf8]

I have no problem with it, I just don't consider it a good argument for basic income.