[tachyonbeam]

In Montreal we've had universal rent control all my life, and it actually works quite well. The rents are comparatively low. We have a decent tech scene, but it's still an affordable, left-leaning city, where even struggling artists can scrape by if they want to dedicate themselves to artistic work. I'm sure some people would argue that apartments in Montreal are less well-maintained as a result of universal rent control, but I've lived in the bay area, been to San Francisco many times, and uh, a two-bedroom San Francisco shithole which rents for over 3000 USD/month would rent for about 700 CAD here (~550 USD). If you go to the 800USD/month+ range, you can find very nice apartments.

Funnily enough though, I would say that Montreal has less of a supply problem, despite being on an island with no room to expand into an infinite suburban sprawl like the bay area has. Construction still seems to happen here. People are bitching that too many condos are being built, but I think more supply is good.

Anyway, I think rent control can work pretty well, as exemplified by this Canadian city. At the very least measures to prevent surprise rent tripling while someone is renting an apartment are very much a good thing. Sidenote: I think that rent control can also help prevent property price explosions. It makes no sense to buy an apartment for over a million dollars when its rental value is only 1000/month.

[CryptoPunk]

Montreal has a large supply of old housing stock. Its population growth has also been much slower than Vancouver and Toronto's over the last few decades:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/how-does-montr...

>>Montreal is not shrinking, but it is growing slower than other big Canadian cities – driving down rental demand in the process. From 2013 to 2014, despite gaining nearly 43,000 immigrants from other parts of the world, Montreal tallied a net loss of 10,000 residents to other provinces.

If either Vancouver or Toronto had had more stringent rent control in place over the last few decades, the housing situation in these cities would be much worse than it is right now.

The effects of rent control have been heavily studied and are well-known:

https://www.econlib.org/library/Enc/RentControl.html

[jblwps]

A note: EconLib appears to be run by the Liberty Fund, which is a group that certainly has a slant of its own[0]: an essentially anti-regulation stance in the name of personal liberty. I have attended a colloqium put on by a Liberty Fund-sponsored think-tank, and can attest to that slant.

I'm not saying the contents of the article is wrong, but just be aware of its source/publisher.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Fund#Criticism

[CryptoPunk]

Yes you should definitely judge the content on its own merit and not blindly trust the source. The article is well sourced and even cites "left-wing" economists (yes they exist) and political figures.

[thorwasdfasdf]

the reason rent control works in that case is because the difference between the rent control the amount dictated by the free market is very close. In that case, efffectively, the rent control doesn't really do much at all and hence isn't interfering with the pricing signals and incentives to build. In CA, the rent controlled prices are currently so far lower than the current cost of building it makes it pretty much impossible to build.