[baddox]

People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones. A very small portion of people probably would prefer a thicker phone with a larger battery, but I strongly suspect that the overwhelming majority of people prefer phones that are as thin as possible with enough battery life for an average day's usage, with the option of carrying an external battery pack for the times when more battery life will be necessary.

I am certainly in the latter camp, in fact, I would prefer an even thinner phone, because I am almost always within arm's reach of a charger and rarely even need "a full day" of battery life.

[gwd]

> People are almost certainly asking for thinner phones.

Are they? Almost everyone I know has a case on their phone; and I didn't have one until I bought the iPhone XS, which is over $1k and has glass on both sides.

I mean, don't get me wrong; I like the capabilities of the new iPhones. But the current design means that what most people actually use not the slick shiny slimness you see in Apple promotional materials, but thick sturdy plastic keeping all that fragile glass safe.

If Johnny Ives really wanted to be able to see people use phones the way he envisioned them, he should have designed it to withstand a 10-foot drop onto concrete. That would be a lot more useful than 30 minutes underwater.

[baddox]

> Almost everyone I know has a case on their phone

I don't think people put cases on their phone to make them thicker. I think they use cases to increase durability. Making the phone itself thinner means that the phone in a case will also be thinner, so that's perfectly compatible with the claim that people prefer thinner phones.

[falcolas]

In my case - in the case of everyone I've chatted with that has a camera bump - it's to reduce the risk of damage to (or caused by) the camera bump. Otherwise, most of them would get a significantly thinner case, the rest getting no case at all.

[baddox]

Interesting. I've never heard anything about camera bumps having any effect on durability. Why would this be the case?

[falcolas]

1) Sharp corner in a material - creates a weak point.

2) when set on a flat surface, it creates an unstable bridge, meaning downward pressure on the phone is not supported. Think of how a piece of cardboard would react to being pressed down in the middle with only 3 of its corners supported.

3) It creates a point that can be snagged when moving the phone around, either on clothing or surfaces it's set on.

Personal opinion, it's really frustrating to have a phone that doesn't sit flat on a surface, to be unable to easily use it without some kind of case or holding it.

[Guillaume86]

This so much, I had to give up going case-less after my Galaxy S2 because of that ridiculous trend of glass backs and generally fragile designs. Designs that are in fact completely useless except for marketing material because almost everyone will need to put a case around them.

[stouset]

> Are they? Almost everyone I know has a case on their phone; and I didn't have one until I bought the iPhone XS, which is over $1k and has glass on both sides.

And if you had a thicker phone, do you think it would obviate the need for a case?

[gwd]

I didn't have a case on my 3GS, nor my 4S, nor my 5S. I dropped them all many times and never had anything more thank a couple of nicks.

Tried to do the same with my 6S, where the glass goes over the edge of the phone. Cracked the screen 3 times, got a thin case. When I decided I wanted to upgrade to an XS rather than repair the screen again, the wife said only if you get a proper case; and I had a hard time disagreeing with her.

I'm positive that Apple could design a phone smaller than the combined size of the XS a good case, which would handle the drops I subject my phone to occasionally just fine. It would be a little thicker and less pretty than the current phone without a case, but much less thick and much less ugly than the current phone with a case.

[Terretta]

Everyone uses a case, often the leather first party ones, and a thinner phone lets the lens be flush* with the case.

// Technically no, technically still inset just enough to not touch the service it's on.

[Roboprog]

Ob: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yfoWLRLXl30&feature=youtu.be

Serious drop test, without any wussie case