[yumraj]

Agree. I'll pay for an email service provided by Mozilla.

Right now my only options are Gmail or running my own. I just don't trust other email providers.

And, yes, I've looked at Fastmail, Zoho, Protonmail and others.

[glitchc]

You trust Google more than ex. ProtonMail and Rackspace?

Curious about the thought process that made you arrive to this conclusion.

[yumraj]

It's like picking the known evil vs the unknown. And, I know it's probably not a good answer logically but more gut driven.

Emails have a lot of information about my life.

I know what Google is doing with my emails, and as far as I can see Google is not going to die or be purchased by another entity.

With companies like Protonmail and others I just don't know. Even if I trust their current T&C, what happens if they are bought.

Also, while it is equally likely for Google to have rogue employees, I believe they will have more stringent safeguards then smaller companies.

Again, as I said, probably not a very good answer, but more gut driven. And, I say this as someone who is very conscious of privacy.

[lugubris]

> what happens if they are bought

Not going to happen overnight and even then technically they cannot access your emails because only you hold the password to private keys (if you trust they encrypt your emails with your public key before storing). I prefer keeping my emails local so pop does the job.

Google can access your emails but something like protonmail can't (if you trust them to encrypt your emails).

[thiccly]

Sounds good... in theory. Truth is we don't know this, their mail client is proprietary and even if it was open source we still wouldn't know what their servers are logging. I am in a similar situation and I trust Google more than ProtonMail with all that Tesonet data weirdness pointing back to one guy. These shell companies can go and disappear overnight, something to consider.

[wildduck]

Protonmail's email encrypted in the browser! Their client is open source:

https://github.com/ProtonMail/WebClient

It is main reason to use ProtonMail over Gmail.

[sjwright]

Trust is multiple things. I "trust" that Google will manage my private Gmail account consistent with my expectations—which are effectiveness and long-term durability. I have no expectation of algorithmic privacy and thus there's no trust to break there.

[eikenberry]

3rd option. Running your own for incoming, using a service for outgoing. You get all the trust benefits of running your own server without having to worry about IP blacklists or any other crap. The nicer ones even generate your SPF, DMARC entries you add to your DNS.

[jblwps]

FWIW, I've had a great experience so far with Posteo(.de).

[zelphirkalt]

I was going to recommend the same. Happy user here. Much better than my experience with Gmail actually and I have moved most of my accounts to Posteo.

Posteo is also running on green energy and free software, afaik, so that is a plus.

[jblwps]

Yeah! I found it when looking for free software-based mail providers, in fact.

[zelphirkalt]

Same :D

I like also that it is no problem to use in countries which block VPN, like China. I had no problems accessing Posteo, but no way of accessing Gmail. It also does not nag me every single time I change the VPN server I use, because I seem to be in a different location. I know this is supposed to be a security feature of Gmail, but man is it annoying not to be able to access your mail, because of that. In Posteo you can also activate 2FA afaik, if you like such thing.

It just works, and I am glad to be able to give support to free software, while at the same time I also gain from it, by having an e-mail service, which is ethically way more acceptable than Gmail and is working very well.