[grzm]

You're likely to get a better, faster, and authoritative response by contacting the mods directly using the contact link in the footer.

From the guidelines:

> Please don't post on HN to ask or tell us something. Instead, please send it to [e-mail].

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

If you're looking to have a discussion about it, after getting a response, write up a blog post and submit it as a normal submission.

[Meckin]

wasn't, its to highlight a harder debate on why its Google ads are broken and forces brands to pay for their own keyworss

[grzm]

Then again, write that blog post and submit it to encourage that discussion. What you've written above does not guide conversation constructively in that direction.