[EpicEng]

Yeah well obviously they are, but I always do love an HN "oh logical fallacy I win!" response.

My point is that your approach helps no one and has failed time and time again in the past. Remember D.A.R.E? How about abstinence health ed. programs? "Just say no" doesn't work. People like their vices. When a healthier alternative comes along it's a good thing.

[apta]

Maybe in the US, but abstinence works in other countries. There should be investigations into why that is the case.