[mchristen]

You must realize that is not the norm though, right?

It wasn't until Google Fiber came into my area that everyone else starting offering competitive pricing, but the vast majority of land in the US is a high speed broadband wasteland.

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Google fiber never came here. It was Verizon 5g that made Comcast and at&t offer gigabit internet in my neighborhood. I was even ready to shell out the $2k setup fee and Comcast was like mmm no gigabit for you.

So I don’t believe it is subsidy I fully believe it is competition. Google realized that it’s incredibly difficult and expensive to lay fiber and stopped. 5G realized they don’t need fiber to be competitive.

Competition always ends in a win for the customer

[mchristen]

FWIW Google is still rolling fiber in my market.

And you are right, it's not subsidies, it's engineered monopolies causing the problem which is why you see the competition actually working.

Google had to use microtrenching because they couldn't get access to existing rights of ways on telephone poles owned by other providers, mainly AT&T in my area.

[o-__-o]

Depends on your state. My state allows pole sharing but a 48hour line break fix req or other providers can “fix” it for you and etc

Its really expensive to run an isp here